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【键盘侠】锡安连续7场得分20+

Zion Williamson is the youngest player in NBA history to score 20+ PTS in seven straight games. Previous youngest was Carmelo Anthony in 2004.

锡安是NBA史上最年轻的连续7场得分20+球员。之前达成这一成就的是2004年的安东尼。

Pelicans started gettin hot just before Zion returned and now that he’s back, it looking promising they’ll snag a playoff birth although they’re still 4 games behind.

就在锡安复出前,鹈鹕的状态就开始有了起色。现在锡安回归了,感觉他们争取季后赛席位的希望又回来了,尽管他们仍然落后四个胜场。

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[–]Rockets nuhx 1480 指標 13小時前

He’s still so raw. I’m looking forward to the real Zion experience after a couple real NBA offseasons.

火箭球迷:他现在还很糙呢。经过几个休赛期的强化之后,很想看看真正的锡安是怎样的。

[–]Doctor-TobiasFunke 5 指標 9小時前

Exactly, this is just a taste. I can’t wait for the whole load!

确实,这才小试牛刀呢。好想看看开足马力的锡安!

[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 684 指標 13小時前

He's still super young too, even for being a 19 year old. He was 18 on draft night.

雄鹿球迷:而且他依然相当年轻,才19岁啊。选秀当晚也才18.

[–]Pelicans UnimpressedAsshole 587 指標 13小時前

Crazy that a 19 year old is already bodying the biggest guys in the league. He reminds me so much of Barkley.

鹈鹕球迷:19岁的孩子就已经在联盟和那些块头最大的人拼身体了,不可思议啊。他让我想起了巴克利。

[–][SAS] Boban Marjanovic CaptObvious420 323 指標 13小時前

Watching him in college, I had a hard time seeing his game thriving to the same degree in the NBA against much bigger and more skilled and athletic players. But yeah, he's the real deal, and he looks like he has a lot of room for growth.

马刺球迷:看他在大学打球的时候,我没想到他在NBA能打出同样的表现,毕竟NBA的对手要壮得多,技术更好,而且更有运动能力。确实啊,他是货真价实的,而且感觉他还有很多成长空间。

[–][PHI] Joel Embiid sharke93 94 指標 11小時前

Turns out he's still that much more athletic even in comparison to NBA guys

76人球迷:结果比起NBA球员,他的运动能力还是超出一大截。

[–]Second_Rate_Sorcerer 103 指標 11小時前

And he is not even close to the explosiveness he showed in college just yet. One off season and he'll be even more dominant. He needs to really work on his conditioning though and make sure his diet is on point. Cause those are the only things that can stop him from superstardom.

他现在的爆炸力比起大学还差得远呢。再等一个休赛期吧,他的统治力还会更强。不过他真得好好强化体能训练,保证合理的饮食。因为这是唯二能阻止他成为超巨的因素了。

[–]pinkluloyd 19 指標 5小時前

People talk about him losing strength if he loses a bit of weight but wtf do you do against a 6'6" 250 lbs man with a potentially 4 foot vert...

很多人说锡安要是减重一点点,那就会失去力量,可面对一个身高6尺6体重250磅垂直弹跳接近四英尺的大块头,你特么还能干啥呢……

[–]Heat drain65 261 指標 13小時前

I don’t think there are many NBA players that are bigger or more athletic than Zion.

热火球迷:我觉得联盟里比锡安更壮或更有运动天赋的人少之又少。

[–]Raptors LEERROOOOYYYYY 119 指標 11小時前

The guy is nuts. Just powerful as fuck

猛龙球迷:这孩子太变态了,力量大的一匹

[–]ulasakyildiz 20 指標 10小時前

this mf is basically a bowling ball

这货基本就是个保龄球

[–]Nets LiaM_CS 104 指標 11小時前

He made Whiteside look like a child on a couple plays last night, it was insane

篮网球迷:昨晚有两个回合,白边在他面前跟小孩一样,太假了。

[–]Pelicans RoastDaMostToast 75 指標 10小時前

He was even pushing Steven Adams around. Yea I think his game has translated

鹈鹕球迷:他之前甚至把亚当斯撞开了几米远。没错,我觉得这就是他的风格。

[–]NBA DeeThreeTimesThree 86 指標 9小時前

Ripping that rebound from Gianiss is one of the most big boy plays we’ve seen from him so far imo

他之前在字母哥手中生抢篮板,我觉得这是目前为止他最劲爆的表演之一。

[–]Pelicans RoastDaMostToast 50 指標 9小時前

Giannis got the better of him a lot that game but that play was definitely very satisfying

鹈鹕球迷:那场比赛锡安很多时候都是被字母哥教训,不过那个篮板抢得确实让人很满意。

[–]Rockets psufb 66 指標 11小時前

Can't wait to see how him, Zo, and Ingram expand their games. 19, 22, and 22. If they can all expand their repertoire that's a fun dynamic trio build around

火箭球迷:好想看看技能丰富之后的锡安、鲍尔和英格拉姆一起打球啊。19岁,22岁,22岁。要是他们都扩充了技能包,那围绕这个活力三人组建队可就有意思咯

[–]Pelicans MarchMadnessisMe 18 指標 8小時前

I can only get so erect.

鹈鹕球迷:那我只能石更。

[–]Warriors Istovi 1 指標 4小時前

Potentially another OKC deal with future MVPs and stellar career numbers. Maybe not Lonzo but the other two will be deadly for a long time.

勇士球迷:那他们仨就可能跟当年雷霆一样,有三个未来的MVP,而且三人的生涯数据都很秀。或许鲍尔到不了这一步,不过另外两位以后在相当长一段时间内会很致命的。

[–]Bulls TheVindicator07 6 指標 3小時前

Even then, Healthy Lonzo with prime Zion and BI could easily lead the league in assists for quite a few years.

公牛球迷:即便是那样,一个健康的鲍尔遇上巅峰的锡安和英格拉姆的话,那他可以在很多年里轻松领跑助攻榜

[–]YawnKemp 17 指標 10小時前

Seems like just conditioning and work on his handle/free throw would.take him to a frightening level. Anything beyond that will be unimaginably scary.

感觉仅仅提升体能和强化控球、罚球的练习就能让锡安上升到一个恐怖的级别。要是还有别的进步,那就吓死人了。

[–]Vince3737 15 指標 9小時前

They NEED to get Hakeem working with him in the off season. Zion with some Hakeem footwork would be unstoppable

鹈鹕必须得在休赛期找到奥拉朱旺来教锡安。他要是学会了大梦的脚步,那就无敌了。

[–]YawnKemp 6 指標 7小時前

I'm all for that! Zion seems very bright, but do you think he absorb Hakeem's lessons after a half season? Seems like a year 2 or 3 thing.

我支持!锡安虽说很有灵性,不过你觉得他仅靠半个赛季就能掌握大梦所传授的技能吗?貌似需要两三个赛季。

[–]Vince3737 10 指標 7小時前

Any work with Hakeem would help. Hakeem is the GOAT at low post moves. They should try get Zion working with Hakeem as much as possible. I know Hakeem loves teaching the young players so he would likely be up for it

不管大梦教他啥,都会有帮助的。奥拉朱旺的低位背身脚步可是历史最强啊。鹈鹕应该尽可能地让锡安跟奥拉朱旺一起练习。我知道奥拉朱旺是很喜欢指点年轻人的,所以他很可能会答应的。

[–]2heads1shaft 30 指標 10小時前

Kind of crazy New Orleans went from CP3 to AD to Zion.

All time great players. With Zion on track to be one.

有点厉害啊,鹈鹕从保罗时期到戴维斯时期,再到锡安时期。

全都是历史顶级球员,锡安就是下一个。

[–]Mavericks Tankwagon Alexkono 17 指標 7小時前

Zion very well could be the best of the 3.

独行侠球迷:锡安很可能是他们三个里面最强的那个。

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[–]Lakers Rager_YMN_6 249 指標 14小時前

It feels like he’s barely tryin out there too... like he has a whole nother gear he could turn on but he’s taking it easy for now because he’s playing weaker specimen

湖人球迷:我感觉他在场上都没咋出力……感觉他还有一套新设备可以启动,但是他现在就是闲庭信步,因为他遇到的对手更弱。

[–]Timely Junket0[ ] 127 指標 12小時前

Yep that's the crazy part. His effort level is not even close to his college level yet. On defense he takes so many plays off right now. Once his stamina and his confidence comes back, it will be an interesting experience. Especially next to Lonzo who will feed him constantly and Ingram who can help flll in when he can't create one on one against closed down defenses.

对啊,这是最离谱的。他现在打得还没大学那会儿费力呢。防守端他很多时候都没上心。一旦他的体能和信心恢复了,那就有意思咯。何况身边还有鲍尔这种不断喂球的伙伴,而且他在打不开局面时还有英格拉姆帮忙。

[–]Nuggets Supperkick 61 指標 11小時前

The pelicans could be a really good team in the next few seasons.

掘金球迷:鹈鹕再等两三个赛季就能成为一支真正的强队。

[–]Bulls Dr_Disaster 15 指標 9小時前

Imagine a lighter, better conditioned Zion unleashed on the league. Dear God...

公牛球迷:一个更轻、更强的锡安释放出来,会是怎样啊。我的天呐……

[–]Mavericks mrtemporallobe 266 指標 13小時前

We are not prepared for peak Zion in 2-3 years.

独行侠球迷:我们还没准备好锡安两三年之后的巅峰呢

[–]Nets Expulsure 189 指標 11小時前

Zion won’t peak at like 22 lol

篮网球迷:锡安22岁的时候还没到巅峰,哈哈哈

[–]Knicks fandagan 56 指標 10小時前

It's not that crazy; age 22 was D-Rose's peak.

尼克斯球迷:也没那么离谱,罗斯的巅峰就是22岁

[–]ulasakyildiz 159 指標 10小時前

if he didn’t got injured it wouldn’t be his peak

如果他没受伤的话,那就不是他的巅峰

[–][LAL] LeBron James knightvillian 69 指標 9小時前

The greats peak early and stay there

湖人球迷:那些伟大球员的巅峰期都来得早,然后一直保持

[–]mclovin215 28 指標 8小時前

LeBron peaked at 27 imo

我觉得老詹的巅峰是在27岁

[–]Cavaliers favoritedisguise 15 指標 6小時前

Some say he's still peaking to this day.

骑士球迷:有些人说他到现在还是巅峰期

[–]mclovin215 19 指標 5小時前*

He's still playing at a LeBron level. But I think the peak of his prime ended around the time he returned to the Cavs. Offensively he has learned new skills to match whatever he has lost in raw explosiveness but his defensive versatility went a step down. With the Heat, he was effectively guarding MVP Rose in the playoffs and then Kevin Durant in the playoffs the year after

他现在依然是詹姆斯的水准。不过我觉得他的巅峰期大概在回到骑士时就结束了。进攻端他掌握了新技能,可以弥补之前纯靠爆炸力的损耗,不过他的防守多样性下降了。在热火的时候,他可以在季后赛高效地防守MVP级别的罗斯,之后一年还能在季后赛防杜兰特。

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[–][PHI] Kyle Korver BabyDick-_- 714 指標 13小時前

Melo did it for 9 straight if anyones wondering

76人球迷:要是有谁好奇的话,甜瓜当年可是连着9场20+

[–]Knicks jadenx2 64 指標 12小時前

Melo was born to get buckets.

尼克斯球迷:甜瓜天生就是个得分手

[–]76ers Immynimmy 56 指標 11小時前

Yet a large majority on this sub thinks he was never good.

76人球迷:可这里还是有很多人觉得他没有利害的时候

[–]Heat Crayle123 107 指標 11小時前

A large majority of this sub probably started watching ball when Melo got to OKC. Same goes for someone like Dwight. The vocal majority is always the guys with the least knowledge lol

热火球迷:那些人或许是在甜瓜去雷霆的时候才开始看球的。他们对霍华德也是这样的态度。那些喊得最凶的一帮人总是那些最无知的,哈哈哈

[–]Knicks NYCharlie212 5 指標 7小時前

Dwight and that Orlando run felt like the blue print to the modern nba and especially this current bucks team. Surround the big man with a shit ton of shooters and all of a sudden the spacing becomes next level.

尼克斯球迷:感觉霍华德和当年那支魔术就是现代NBA的雏形,尤其是现在的雄鹿这种。一个内线,配备一堆投手,场上空间立马就拉开了好多。

[–][NYK] RJ Barrett Nick_Scopes 12 指標 10小時前

Til this day I can’t believe Melo never teamed up with Bron and Wade in Miami. I think you guys would’ve won another 2 chips with him instead of Bosh.

尼克斯球迷:知道今天,我仍然不敢相信,甜瓜居然没在迈阿密和老詹、韦德聚首。我觉得要是用他换掉波什,那热火还能多拿两个冠军。

[–]Lakers Reeeespawn1776 7 指標 7小時前

That’s an insane take. Bosh was fantastic.

湖人球迷:你也真是敢说。波什很厉害的啊。

[–][TOR] Jose Calderon MasaiGotUsNow 12 指標 8小時前

Absolutely not, this isn’t 2k

People were already saying wade/bron was an awkward fit, now you wanna add another ball dominant player?

There’s only 1 ball, plus melo doesn’t offer much else aside from his elite offense. That Miami team needed size, that’s why bosh was so important. He was by far their most skilled big, but he had to play out of position at C

猛龙球迷:肯定不能用安东尼换波什啊,这又不是玩2K

当时就有人说过,韦德和老詹搭起来有些尴尬,现在又想再加个依赖球权的人?

场上只有一个球啊,而且甜瓜除了顶级的进攻,其他方面也提供不了什么。那支热火需要的是身高,所以波什的作用才如此重要。他当时是技术最高的内线,不过他打中锋位置也是被逼无奈。

[–]Warriors cxu1993 4 指標 6小時前

Bosh was a really good defender specifically for that team since he was pretty quick and could switch out onto guards which is why their PnR defense was always one of the best. That heat team pioneered the mobile switching defenses we see today

勇士球迷:波什当时真的是个很强的防守人,尤其是在那支热火队里,因为他很快,可以换防到外线对位后卫,所以热火当时的挡拆防守总是联盟顶尖。那支热火是我们今天看到的移动换防的先驱者。

[–]Heat Crayle123 38 指標 10小時前

I think Melo was rumored to join/get traded to Miami for the last 2 seasons of LeBron in Miami. I cant remember how that was possible anymore but it would've been interesting to say the least.

Long tern I think Bosh was a better fit though, especially after Spo conceived smaller lineups with Bosh at C and specialists (Battier, Miller, Allen, Birdman, Chalmers etc. around the Big 3) which was integral to our defensive identity. Bosh hedging and switching on pick n rolls was and still is a massively underrated aspect of the 2 rings

热火球迷:记得当初老詹在热火最后两个赛季的时候,有谣言说甜瓜要交易去迈阿密。现在记不得这个交易的可能性了,不过还是有点意思的。

可是我一直都觉得波什更适合热火,尤其是在斯波把他挪到中锋位置采用一套更小个的阵容之后,那套阵容里还有对防守不可或缺的专家。尽管有两个戒指,但波什在防守中的延误和挡拆的换防在当时和现在,都是被严重低估的。

[–]Lakers Butwhywouldyousuck 15 指標 9小時前

Pretty sure the rumor was that Bron/Wade went to Melo before Bosh but Melo didn't want to take the paycut so they went to Bosh instead. The real tragedy was the whole CP3/Melo teaming up never happening but I can;t remember the details on that one.

湖人球迷:我记得当时传言是老詹和韦德本来是想招募甜瓜,可甜瓜不肯降薪,所以他俩就去找了波什。真正的悲剧是保罗和甜瓜没有组队,不过我不记得其中的细节了。

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[–]gigglios 9 指標 12小時前

The most entertaining player for me. Never seen an athlete like him before. Cant believe he was in highschool 2 years ago. Imagine being in grade 12 and having zion run over your team lol. Wish he came into the nba after highscool.

我觉得他是最具观赏性的球员。之前从没看过他这种运动员。真是不敢相信,他两年前还在高中。想象一下,你在读高四,看到锡安在你的校队面前砍瓜切菜,哈哈哈。真希望他高中毕业就进NBA。

[–]EGarrett 6 指標 11小時前

It's looking also like Zion might have one of the highest PER's if not the highest PER by a rookie since Wilt Chamberlain. Wilt had a PER of 28 as a 23-year-old rookie in 1960 and Zion currently has 25.5 at age 19.

貌似锡安的效率值也是历史顶级,应该不是效率值最高的菜鸟,毕竟有张伯伦这尊大神。1960年23岁的张伯伦打新秀赛季的效率值有28,而现在19岁的锡安效率值是25.5.

[–]Pelicans Good_NewsEveryone 166 指標 14小時前

Anyone talking small sample size with Zion is sticking their head in the sand

鹈鹕球迷:那些觉得锡安比赛场次太少说明不了什么的人就是故意装瞎。

[–][NOP] Jrue Holiday POWBOOMBANG 54 指標 10小時前

Honestly its just people who don't watch the games.

鹈鹕球迷:有一说一,这就是那些没看比赛的人。

[–][CHI] Nazr Mohammed ThaBomb 39 指標 8小時前

This is the shit that frustrates me. It doesn’t take a full season to know you are watching a player who has to potential to be insanely good. I was just told in another thread that it’s way too early to draw any conclusions on how good Zion is. That makes no sense to me. Like have you watched him play? You can’t tell that he is ultra talented? You don’t have to be an NBA scout to see it!!!

公牛球迷:我觉得他们这种鬼话很扯。看一个球员的潜力是不是与众不同,不需要花整个赛季来观察啊。我在另一个帖子里看到有人说,现在评判锡安有多厉害还有点太早。我觉得这完全是不讲道理。你看过他打球吗?难道你看不出他的天赋是超凡的?这个不是非得要球探才看得见的啊!!!

[–]Mavericks beatnickk 13 指標 7小時前

If you watch this dude play it is clear as fucking day that you should be terrified of him

独行侠球迷:看这孩子打球就知道了,他的天赋真特么瞎眼可见,你应该对他感到害怕。

[–]cesam1ne 56 指標 11小時前

The best thing about tese 20+ pts is just how simple, high percentage buckets they are. Zion uses positioning, mass and strength in the most effective ways, non dependant of shooting form..so there's just no reason to expect much fluctuation. He looks like a lock 30pt 10rb 5a player next season, IF he stays healthy.

锡安这一波连续20+最厉害的是,他的得分非常轻松,而且命中率很高。锡安能通过最高效的方式利用自己的要位、吨位和力量,并不依赖自己的投篮方式……所以他肯定是不会有太大起伏的。要是保持健康的话,感觉他下赛季就是稳稳的那种30分10板5助球员。

[–]Hellion3601 22 指標 10小時前

That's a great point, he scores effortlessly, he's just faster and / or stronger than any defender, and he's got soft touch and great BB IQ. These buckets will be there for him to get every game, specially as he reaches his physical peak.

说得很好,他得分不费力,他就是利用速度和力量欺负所有防守人,而且他的出球很柔,球商很高。那些得分每场比赛就是等着他去拿的,尤其是在他达到身体巅峰状态的时候。

[–]Mike_Krzyzewski 6 指標 8小時前

The spacing of the NBA game helps his style of play as well. College basketball didn’t really limit him but the spacing of the NBA with better 3pt shooting and the 3pt line bring farther away.

如今NBA对空间的强调也让锡安这种打法受益。大学篮球真的没法限制住锡安,不过强调空间的NBA三分更准,三分线更远,更能让锡安发挥。

[–]Suns Mundingburrasaurus 23 指標 12小時前

I love how the pels are integrating him into the offense in terms of focusing on him. They should then force his development by working on his ball handling and shot creating skills over the coming offseason. Then he will be unstoppable.

太阳球迷:我很喜欢鹈鹕对锡安的使用方式,他们是让锡安融入进攻体系,而不是专门围绕他展开进攻。接下来他们就该在休赛期帮助锡安强化持球和创造出手机会的技能了。那时候的锡安才是无法阻挡的。

[–]Raptors apez- 22 指標 13小時前

Man I really hope the pelicans can make playoffs this year. Theyre one of the most fun teams to watch

猛龙球迷:真心希望鹈鹕这赛季能进季后赛啊。他们现在是最好看的球队之一

[–]Suns Ondrejko179 14 指標 9小時前

We need Lakers Pelicans first round grudge match. I bet the Pels get 1 or 2 games

太阳球迷:我们想在首轮看鹈鹕和湖人的恩怨对决。我猜鹈鹕能赢一两场。

[–]Raptors apez- 16 指標 9小時前

Pels winning that would feel so damn good for everyone except Lakers fans

猛龙球迷:要是鹈鹕能赢,那对非湖蜜的大家伙来说,太特么过瘾了。

[–]Lakers HenchBandicoot 4 指標 10小時前

I'd like to guard him in the post one time just to feel that rump.

湖人球迷:我想在低位防锡安一次,只想感受一把那个屁股蛋子。

[–]kristape 2 指標 8小時前

gayyyyyyyy

死基佬!

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编译:云长刮个痧

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